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  • jyonkov 9:38 pm on April 29, 2010 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: apple, , , ,   

    Apple vs Adobe 

    I think Steve Jobs should cool down before he gets at odds with developers again… We all love Apple devices but we remember the history too… this is getting out of proportion. No software is perfect but Adobe has been filling the gaps for developers and artists for a long time… HTML5 has its place, but to forbid MDD and generated code from executing on I(x)Device is a bit too much. Developers and users should be the judge of what is a good platform and what is not… My family owns 4 iPhones but after this i’m looking more and more into Adroid (most likely the next smart phone for us).

     
    • jyonkov 10:04 pm on April 29, 2010 Permalink | Reply

    • Daniel Radev 1:48 pm on April 30, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      I don’t want to turn this into another Apple fanboys vs Apple haters thread, but flash? really?
      Microsoft today announced that the future is (as far as they are concerned) HTML5. Facebook announced that they are actively hiring HTML5 devs.
      The technology is moving on, while drama queens Adobe are crying around that Apple doesn’t want to support something that does not even exist (there is no Flash for mobile devices to date)…
      And just to point something from the history – a lot of people cried out when Apple killed floppy drives 13 years ago…
      I really want Adobe to release something so that people understand what Apple is talking all about…
      btw: Is should mean something that Mozilla removed Flash support from their mobile browser as well…

    • jyonkov 7:14 am on May 15, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      Info about the Flash platform http://www.adobe.com/choice/flash.html

  • jyonkov 7:45 pm on March 17, 2010 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: code, ,   

    Google Code Jam 

    I’m thinking about participating in Google Code Jam competition. A while ago (back in school i guess) many of us use to be crazy about all kinds of regional and national competitions and i know that there are quite few “medalists” here. I wonder if we still have the will, speed ++ ;)

     
    • jyonkov 10:18 am on April 18, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      There is still time… registration ends may May 8th. You can practice on the tasks from last year. I’m learning Python this way (any programming language is allowed … but i thought of giving Python a try)

    • jyonkov 10:58 pm on June 3, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      Google code jam update: I’ve managed to pass the first round using Python, it was very cool… but learning a language while coding for time is not the best strategy so i ran out of time in the second round even though the tasks where not that complex . It was fun though and Python is a very nice language. (surprisingly most people used C++ with a lot of macros to reduce verbosity ++).
      Here is another competition organized by a smaller group in Slovakia http://ipsc.ksp.sk

  • Bertrand 10:59 pm on January 24, 2010 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , , , search,   

    New Search Engine 

    I have a question !

    I would like to know the actual possibilitys of making a “smart” search engine that could give you answers of your questions.

    For example, let say that i want to know the birth date of Napoleon, i’m going first on google and type Napoleon brithdate, i find few links and by habit, i click on Wikipedia. There, i look in first lines to find what i’m looking for.

    Is there a way of finding directly this information by asking a simple question like this? I mean noone care about looking stuff in search engine or encyclopedia but the answers.

    Even better, what if i speak directly in mic asking my questions and get replyed by voice. Avoiding typing and mousing gesture for earn time.  Imagine a children playing with such application for years! Or this could in reverse made the learning process almost unusefull for most people.

    Until where could we go about question complexity?

    John told me few years ago about ontologie and this really blow my mind but what now? Is there something like Wikipedia but ontologie oriented more open than a “simple” dictionary?

     
    • Daniel Radev 3:56 am on January 25, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      Currently WolframAlfa (http://www.wolframalpha.com ) is the best answer as far as I know.
      It would give you answers to questions like Napoleon birthdate and it has some other nice features (type AAPL vs GOOG for example)…

      • Neven Boyanov 8:21 pm on January 26, 2010 Permalink | Reply

        That is very interesting. I looked for various (and few very stupid) things but what surprised me was that: “Jesus Christ date of birth” – result ~ 4 BC, looks inaccurate. But it’s still better that nothing, i.e. as if the guy never existed. ;)

    • jyonkov 7:25 am on January 25, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      I agree with Daniel that WolframAlfa fits your description the best. Here are some other interesting once.
      http://www.clusty.com/ – categorizes/clusters searches.
      http://labs.hakia.com/hakia-lab.html – they are based in Turkey i think..
      http://www.powerset.com/ – from MS
      http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&esrch=FT1&tbo=1&tbs=ww:1&q=ontology&btnG=Search -Wonder Wheel
      I can’t skip WordNet http://wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

    • Bertrand 8:33 am on January 25, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      Ok guys, thanks for the tips. I’ll play around with.

    • Jean 4:55 pm on February 2, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      Aardvark (vark.com) seems something to check out too.
      The intelligence of the engine consist of routing your questions to experts in your social network.

      More human interaction, better?

      • jyonkov 2:18 pm on February 13, 2010 Permalink | Reply

        Thanks Jean, I signed up and i like it ! Even Answered a question trough GTalk :)

        I’ve been thinking about “universal” instant messenger with some good plugin framework that can make easy writing applications that utilize the FOAF contacts network since PMF days (PMF was a framework we wrote in Qt while working together…) but never got around to it. It would be cool if one can hack a network app with GUI in a week and publish to the world or some subset without effort… Ahh wait that sounds like Apple App Store?! … well not exactly.

  • Bertrand 7:39 pm on January 24, 2010 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: VFX, Visual Effect   

    Online VFX 

    As i’m working in the VFX industry since 12 years, i always thought that the tools that we use are totally unadapted and obsolete. This coming more real than ever with the years.

    2 years ago, i decided to rally my ideas from my own experiment around a concept. This concept is large and can’t really be describe in few lines. But there is the main ideas.

    But let’s talk first about the software industry. I hate this old school business model of making desktop software, selling it, and justify annual upgrades for making money, even if we don’t know what new functionality to put, we let few new bugs, increase the binary size and make it run slower to obligate clients to buy a new computer.

    In 2001, i was using a compositing software called Shake. This software was really perfect. Very fast, binary of 8Mb, impossible to crash it, very new and open philosophy, etc. It was used by the major VFX studios for make movies like Starwars or Lord of the Rings. What’s append, in 2002, Apple acquired Shake’s company and stop the smart development, stop the Windows and Irix version and make a MacOS bugy and slow one, and now this software is no longer sold and updated by Apple. But a huge part of the industry continue to work with, even with the 2001 version on Windows. For me, this example is very good, users don’t need economic upgrades but just smart tools. Another example is about the Adobe softwares, Photoshop is the leading pictures manipulation software on the market now, but what if i’m looking a little around it. Nothing new since 5 years, only attractive words around little improvement, still bugy, binary is about 1Gb now, and you need a fucking Nasa computer to work correctly. So most of the Photoshop’s operators that i know are still using older Photoshop versions. The tools was good 5 years ago, with everything to work properly, we know where are bugs and computers are fast enough now to made it run correctly.

    What’s new now? Since few years are coming online apps. Google doc is a very good example of what to do. Simple app, light, easy and handy for free user and more advanced with support for clients. I love this business model.

    My idea is very simple, made a complete picture manipulating online apps based on a media repository and a single rendering engine.

    1 – Media Repository:

    No new ideas here! I was thinking about such thing few years ago. Now such tools are very usual. Except that movie industry users need the medias to be in local network, remote web access for uncompressed pictures or video are not really possible yet. Also, a real user interface, no complexes setup, think artist way, not programmer’s way. Mesh is a very good example. With a versioning system, it could be perfect.

    2- Media Manipulating Tools:

    What are pictures tools? There is a bunch of software’s kind that use different GUI system for do the same things. Editing, color grading and compositing are very similar softwares. Only GUI allow you to do different things and work on different parts of the media more or less comfortably.  The main idea is to setup all those differents GUI all around the same rendering engine.

    Advantages are users can define them own way of working, all clients are always up to date so no compatibility problems exchanging projects, an online plugins and scripts repository will allow users to send rendering remotly all over the world without installing new plugins, new version, etc.

    A simple version could be free to let new users work and train with the app, and a professional versions could be rent with extra GUI an functionality depend of clients. More precise tools and dedicated hardware control.

    The renting tools idea is really great for industry. Rather than buying very expensive tools, they could only rent software even for a day in some cases. It’s also better for manage production pipeline and operator’s licenses. It can be more precise in prices range over a project.

    The Open fX project is also very interesting for making plugins inter compatible. It already exist every possible functionality. The use of GPU in 2D software still rare and not often used in smart way. GPU for make sound processing just even don’t exist yet.

    Off course, the greatest probleme making such application is to find a way to make the browser’s GUI and the local media communicate together. It’s not really possible to work remotly on a web server for profesional that use a lot of uncompressed contents.

    My google presentaion

    3 – Media Project Tools:

    No finished online tools exist for managing film, tv, print or any media projects. This could be a very good starting point making money. Free simple and graphical tools to let people get addict, and more complete and professional tools  in rent.

    Conclusion:

    I think that the software industry is really deeply changing. All artists that i know are really tired of existing old school softwares and they are always looking for something lighter and smarter. Of course i can talk about this for weeks. But all what i just described don’t exist yet. It should.

     
    • Daniel Radev 4:29 am on January 25, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      HTML 5 specification would allow processing local data from a browser to some extent (both SQLStorage and Local Storage APIs).
      The problem however is that VFX industry works with huge amount of data (in Avatar case 1.5 Petabytes row material, I read somewhere) and speed is critical.
      However it worth to discuss what and how can be done

      As for the harnessing GPU,I think OpenCL is very promising (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenCL)

      • Bertrand 9:32 am on January 25, 2010 Permalink | Reply

        Yes, you’re right, local storage is critical for such project. It’s very common to exceed 1 Gb of data by picture on a 3D movie.
        OpenFX is based on OpenGL. Now there is a lot of advanced VRML/OpenGL plugins for browser but no general standard. Flash is the most interesting GPU based platform today for 2D rendering.
        Processing(http://processing.org/) also is really cool! It’s java based and it’s relatively fast.
        But the point of this article is more about the fact that there is no graphic app web standard yet.

    • Neven Boyanov 7:57 pm on January 26, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      A lot of the tools you’re using today are old-fashion because they’re inherited by much older products and that’s because very few large companies exist in that area of business that produce such software.

      The ideas that you propose here are great but they are beyond the capabilities of a small to mid sized company, there’s too much work that needs to be done. The problem is the time. It could take too long and by the time of its completion it will be old fashion again.

      The other approach is the community, a.k.a. open source. The problem in that case though is that you need a (very) large company to back this project. Because, the open source projects do not exist by themselves, they exist because companies of various sizes fund them. And here comes the problem – the companies that would be interested in such project are not those that would support any open-source project, they are all proprietary. May be they have their own reasons not to like the openness, that’s not our concern.

      Here I should say that it is common misunderstanding that the open source and the openness in general is created by enthusiasts that work for free. No. It’s a philosophy. You either have business that makes money anyways and you’re (self-) confident enough to open-source your creations, or you just fund yourself with your personal savings. There’s another, thirds, case where you’re helped by other people (your rich uncle on your mother’s side or your wife who’s working while you’re in the lab) who may believe that you’re genius and you cannot take care of yourself but you should be given a chance.

      So, you have to (1) find a company that already has such functionality or is willing to build such by your recommendation, or (2) find a company/organization/person that will support (i.e. fund) such open-source project.

      I know that this may sound discouraging or skeptical but it is not. It works the same way everything works in the capitalism. It’s a free market. And we have high hopes for the humanity of the richest capitalists.

    • Eisneim 12:58 pm on June 14, 2011 Permalink | Reply

      awesome stuff!!

  • jyonkov 11:08 am on December 16, 2009 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , , , ,   

    Blog / CMS software ? 

    We talked about installing plugins in WP and moving the blog to our own server.  Since we may want to do more that blogging, for example: Multilingual Posts, Projects, Some metrics and Analytics, (Nikolay was taking about Trust Metric), Event organizing, Advertising, Fund raising, add more… I wonder what software is best suited to handle all ?

     
    • jyonkov 12:23 pm on December 19, 2009 Permalink | Reply

      It seems that we can’t see what the other options are… so it would be nice if we add them as a comments. I was not expecting to see a lot of votes for google, but with google apps and JEE engine it seems that it has a lot of potential.

      • Bertrand 4:47 pm on December 20, 2009 Permalink | Reply

        Drupal and ModX are really simple and clear, Joomla is heavy to setup and manipulate but there is much more fonctionality.
        About Google tools, i turn a bit around Google Site and it’s look ugly and very limitated by default.
        Joomla, Drupal, your call ;o)

        • jyonkov 2:11 am on December 23, 2009 Permalink | Reply

          As you may have already realized, it’s not really “anyone’s call” what we are going to use, but to me its more about what we need and who is willing to contribute and what platform one has experience with… Please forgive me for the following brain dump but from what i know: Nikolay has experience with WP and he has acquired gambari.org for us, Naven has extensive experience in organizing communities, Stefan has extensive experience with PHP, Bertrand is extremely good with graphics, etc … and we are all pretty good at programming and software architecture. Please add anything you’d like to share… For example I’m more comfortable with Java and Google Engine than PHP. I’m also really exited about getting together and doing a development camp, perhaps sometime next year. Candidate projects pages and projects dashboard would be useful (we can add pages under Projects page), raising funds would help (start with google adsense?). About our community portal i’m sure you’re aware that you can export WP and experiment yourself. I personally think that instead of dividing out community it would be better to experiment bridging WP. For example we can setup our WP server at http://wp.gambari.org or/and JOOMLA at http://joomla.gambari.org , as for the current http://gambari.wordpress.com we are very limited as Nikolay mentioned earlier.

          • Daniel Radev 3:32 am on December 23, 2009 Permalink | Reply

            It’s not about dividing community, I think we need a place where we can share some more information without it being visible to spam bots for example (Bertrand please remove your email from bellow :) ).

    • Nikolay 10:20 pm on January 1, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      From SEO point of view, it’s not good to have multiple subdomains. Whatever we pick, it’s better to reside on the same domain under different paths, i.e. gambari.org as the main and gambari.org/blog as the blog, etc. Regarding the CMS… I think for blogging, WordPress is the best. There are many additional things you can do on top of WordPress MU such as BuddyPress (SocNet), bbPress (forum), etc. Drupal is cool, but even the upcoming Drupal 7 is nowhere close to WordPress for blogging. Probably Drupal 8 will change the status quo, but for now I think WordPress MU + BuddyPress is the best choice for us.

      • jyonkov 2:10 am on January 2, 2010 Permalink | Reply

        Agree about the SEO point of view. About CMS I’m all for what people have experience with. The top things TODO in my opinion are to create our own WPMU, add advertisement and a way for all of us to see how much funds we have accumulated, add infrastructure for translating content. Nik, if you have time can you setup WPMU at http://gambari.org and suggest a way to add Ads. Additional user accounts might be useful (people may like to help…). Lets keep both WPMU’s active for awhile.

  • Jean 9:49 pm on December 14, 2009 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: AI, , image recognition   

    Google goes quantic 

    Google Research presented at NIPS some of the toying they have been doing with qubits from D-Wave.

    New Scientist Article

    Google Research blog entry

     
  • jyonkov 10:22 pm on December 1, 2009 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: 3d, flash, libs, ,   

    Software in Flash 

    A friend of mine – Bertrand, showed me a nice collaborative whiteboard/canvas  software in flash.
    Collaborative mind-map for google-wave, anyone ?

    While on the subject here are some other interesting flash-based apps & libs:

     
    • Stefan Stefanov 8:14 am on December 3, 2009 Permalink | Reply

      Collaborative mind-map for google-wave – definitely yes, thumbs up! I’m really intrigued by the possibility to develop wave widgets/robots in general. However, I’m total newbie on that subject. Or I should better say – I’m a pre-newbie. :)

      What I can say for sure is this is one of those applications google wave is created for.

      • jyonkov 9:03 pm on December 12, 2009 Permalink | Reply

        It’s very exiting that you’re interested in collaborative visualization and and modeling, Diagrams can go long way… Here is a process that my friend Ian showed me a while ago. Professionally I’ve been using Graphviz for a while now to visualize models, conceptual graphs, RDF sub-graphs etc. Here is a google wave that i used to transfer a brain-map from my IPhone. All, feel free to link your visual thoughts to mine !

    • Neven Boyanov 9:14 pm on December 14, 2009 Permalink | Reply

      Did you invite Bertrand to that blog?

      • jyonkov 10:36 am on December 16, 2009 Permalink | Reply

        Yes, I’ve invited Bertrand a while ago… One more reason for us to get our act together and get a plugin to contribute translations…I’ll put a poll together about different Blog/CMS systems we can use.

        • Bertrand 10:09 pm on December 18, 2009 Permalink | Reply

          Yea guys, i put my first article today ;o)
          Sorry for being so long, but i had a child 1 month ago so.
          A little question about the idiagram.com schema. I love that kind of diagram!
          Do you think that there is a way of making a usable schema for politic purpose?
          Because, when i check the tv news since few month, it looks that human being are definitively not able to succeed by itself. It’s Rome again now. I know that it’s look like very stupid question but what if we could let a AI take decisions independently of human decision? Not by thinking deeply but just by taking the smartest decision for the community and not for 1 or 2 guys.
          Politic, Economie, Law are getting more and more complex and no-one is coming to understand what going on anymore. Maybe use an AI model to regulate or control some crucial point could be really nice for humanity! Our fucking history prove us so many times that we just can’t manage each other alone.

          • Neven Boyanov 9:50 pm on December 20, 2009 Permalink | Reply

            Hey Bertrand, congratulations for the baby!

            About the politics, I think you’re right – any sort of sophisticated enough A.I. system will do better than they do – most of them are just idiots in the uniform of the public office.

            This world will definitely change, but it will take time, and based on our history it may take a while, could be another 2000 years. That’s more like a fraction of a second in the scale of the entire human history (if anyone can tell how what’s the length of the human history) but this is our time and may we should use A.I. to replace those not-that-smart decision makers.

            Let’s make an experiment:
            Choose a AI/Expert system and feed it with enough information so it could make some sort of decision. Regularly choose important problems that occur in our society, those that and international and will be judged and made decision about by all (or most) governments. See what decision our system will make and later compare it with theirs.

            It may prove that the A.I. is better, equal or worse that them, on all cases it will be interesting, and a lot of fun of course.

            PS: I thought that this forum here is more for creating things, not a chatter, so here it is – a challenge.

            • Bertrand 10:08 am on December 21, 2009 Permalink | Reply

              We could also take the problem from the other side and ask an AI to rewrite our law and politic system !

              Few month ago, i was in court and i was chatting with my lawyer about laws system (waiting our turn). He explained me that law is just another economy. As i already explain in another post about software, economy has a great problem, it made people made stupid and crazy stuff for made more money rather than take care of people’s needs. So, even if someone tomorrow find a couple a fundamental awesome laws that could handle any problems, no-one will listen to him because it will kill this economy. So the only point of making laws more and more complex is for increase this economy. And the point of letting lawyers write laws is to let this system get more profitable.

              Also, the actual political and law system is from century and is based on very old world behaviors. Maybe the idea to find a global system from actual knowledge and composed with simple rules may be very interesting to help people choose good direction.

              • jyonkov 11:11 am on December 21, 2009 Permalink | Reply

                I agree. Trying to make this economy model work might not be enough and the best thing for humanity… Talking about economy models it would be great if we collaboratively build one that would allow us to allocate funds (if we manage to get any) per project and contribution without the subjectivity of a particular person. Initially this can be all virtual… like a game.

                • Bertrand 1:01 pm on December 21, 2009 Permalink | Reply

                  Economical game :o )This remind me something.
                  I think we should avoid to consider the economy part of the structure. Only people’s side should be think. Redo a political model, this is the point. Maybe we could find something without laws and economy! Or something new.

                  For the fund part, we could try to sell an economic prediction algorithm like the one for the weather. Setup huge supercomputer to try to predict few bullshit and then work on something greater in parallel!

          • Daniel Radev 6:47 pm on December 22, 2009 Permalink | Reply

            Hi guys,

            The idea of AI making decisions instead of us (mankind) terrifies me. Yes, most politics are idiots and yes, people tend to make wrong choices (depending on ones point of view).
            However mankind history shows unambiguously that mankind moves ahead and learns from it’s mistakes (unfortunately sometimes through tragedies).
            Furthermore how the “right” decision is defined – the one that benefits majority or the one that benefits minority?

            The idea of economy model that allows allocating funds is something very interesting and worth discussing…

            Also let’s decide what we can discuss here and is it better to discuss things somewhere else, google wave for example.

            • Bertrand 8:30 pm on December 22, 2009 Permalink | Reply

              Agree for Waves. Blog is very good begining for turning around ideas but google tools could be really better for organize the work around ideas !

              So from where to begin? Any ideas?

              • Daniel Radev 8:49 pm on December 22, 2009 Permalink | Reply

                Well, if anyone of you guys don’t have Wave account I have a lot of invitations to give away.
                We can create private Waves on specific topics and invite people there (also it’s probably worth it to research how we can embed a wave on this site)…

                • Bertrand 8:54 pm on December 22, 2009 Permalink | Reply

                  beber.lempereur at gmail dot com
                  What’s yours?

            • jyonkov 1:08 am on December 23, 2009 Permalink | Reply

              There are many tools for collaboration, thats why I’ve posted the CMS/Blog poll. It’s important before we decide to use one or another to think about what are we trying to do, what we have achieved so far and whats missing. There are many ways that google wave (as is now) is inferior to other tools… The whole google tool set is another matter. I think that it might be useful for us to have ability to create content like projects pages, organize content and navigation, use current assets for fund raising even trough adds and much more… I think that the tool of preference will be determined by the people willing to contribute within our community. By contribution i don’t mean only ideas but also by developing and improving these tools. I’ll continue this discussion in the CMS/Blog poll thread…

  • jyonkov 7:40 pm on October 9, 2009 Permalink | Reply
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    NLP and Ontologies 

    For a while now I’ve been thinking about using knowledge representation – Ontologies as a base for creating a modular Natural Language Processing system focused on extracting structured data from unstructured. For example we can create/use Ontologies (models) that describe “simple” concepts like: Address, Time, Task, Expense, Transaction etc… and use them to “match” information from a text stream. The reason i’m writing this is because i think that there is a common ground for collaboration… I know Stefan is interested in RDF/OWL,  the company that Neven is involved is in a very near domain and finally i was playing with Google Wave which i think is a good platform for creating intelligent bots that will be very easy to distribute if they turn out to be useful :)

    Here are some references:
    http://wordnet.princeton.edu/
    http://protege.stanford.edu/
    http://jena.sourceforge.net/
    http://www.openrdf.org/
    http://code.google.com/apis/wave/guide.html

     
    • Daniel Radev 9:20 am on October 10, 2009 Permalink | Reply

      Although I’m currently not even in near domain (kernel level C driver development is not even close by any means) it is very interesting to me and would gladly participate…

      • jyonkov 10:48 am on October 10, 2009 Permalink | Reply

        Awesome, I’ll try to start with some examples “soon” :)

    • Nikolay 8:41 pm on October 10, 2009 Permalink | Reply

      I want to add a few NLP projects that I personally find interesting: openNLP, which is in Java, and NLTK, which is in Python.

      • jyonkov 6:10 am on October 11, 2009 Permalink | Reply

        Thanks Nikolay, I browsed around the links you provided and stumbled on Apache UIMA, a graduated IBM Research project which has recently been approved as an OASIS Standard. I think that it could be used as a framework in which we can plug our NLP modules when they mature.

        • Nikolay 4:10 am on October 13, 2009 Permalink | Reply

          It seems pretty good, but why it’s still in the incubator… since 2006?

    • Nikolay 6:16 pm on October 14, 2009 Permalink | Reply

      Here’s one project that uses Apache UIMA – SEASR. It has interesting stuff such as sentiment analysis.

    • Neven Boyanov 10:11 pm on October 14, 2009 Permalink | Reply

      This is very interesting topic indeed.

      Knowledge representation is just one part of the process. It is relatively simple task to represent knowledge in a digital form no mater how complex structures or algorithms you should use or how much processor power and memory you will need. But the task does not end with the representation of this knowledge, you need to do something with it.

      One of the obstacles that existed before was the enormous quantities of information that need to gathered first and then process them, but now with Google and all other web-spiders and similar, collecting the information is feasible.

      By the way, Google machine translation is mostly based on what they find on the web and they think one is translation of the other. It’s a version of the statistical machine translation. Others use other sources for parallel corpora such as books, legal documents, etc.

      I will do a parallel here, like the hypothetical best compression algorithm is very similar to a random generator – in its behavior and the result that it produces, in a similar way the perfect machine translation engine is very similar to the best knowledge representation and processing system. It should be in fact a representation of the entire human knowledge with the ability to derive new representations of it in form of one human language or another.

      I like the idea of presenting a program by what it does. The computer language and the computer behavior pair are not very different from humans’ language and respectively their behavior. One day we will be creating programs just by example given to the some kind of knowledge processor that will convert it to a machine code based on what we expect that program to do, just by giving verbal examples.

      I forgot to mention that there was a worldwide recognized NLP conference in Bulgaria, in September, that I was invited to attend but couldn’t for reasons beyond my control, organized by the Bulgarian Academy of Science. The lecturers were mostly from EU and few from US.

      Also, don’t take seriously what I’m saying here about NLP, I’m not proficient enough in that area. :P

      • Svetoslav Vencislavov Pavlov 12:36 am on October 27, 2009 Permalink | Reply

        Hello ! I’m not sure what an ontology is.I’m not a Linguist. Let’s say “ontology” is the grammar way of building a sentence(in English). As I have a simple Language processor( Phrase generator ) , we are able to connect a pattern :) /logical or even derived relational database with different “ontologies”/patterns to Phrase generator. And we are not talking about Natural language processing, and for Virtual Natural Language Processor :)
        “ontology” may become every grammatic rule.
        As you can connect one Application to different databases, you are able to create a pure Logical database based on Artifficial Intelligence with predicats connected to the Application with recurent conections(not database) based on Neural networks Theory. And so, this Application becomes a BOT to communicate with :)

        the beginning( reference ) :
        http://www.languagetool.org/ ( be a patient and smart )
        http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/node/2297

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