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We talked about installing plugins in WP and moving the blog to our own server. Since we may want to do more that blogging, for example: Multilingual Posts, Projects, Some metrics and Analytics, (Nikolay was taking about Trust Metric), Event organizing, Advertising, Fund raising, add more… I wonder what software is best suited to handle all ?
The new version of the P2 theme is much better and finally has post titles!
Yes, the P2 is (much) better now, it’s like real blog.
No need to change the theme anymore.
I was thinking again that it would be cool to motivate people to translate the blog so when someone posts something interesting there is a greater chance that it will be translated to other languages. I’m positive that we can find support for Bulgarian, French and Japanese so I’ve asked Yuka to translate some posts to Japanese. While doing so initially we used Google spreadsheets and ImportFeed and GoogleTranslate functions, than i thought that it would be nice if we use WPML plug-in so i found a free PHP hosting http://www.justfree.com and installed WPMU but failed to install WPML. Has anyone had better luck with multilingual WP ?
Yes, it should be something like that. But could that plug-in be added to our WP.com hosting. Nikolay, do you know?
PS: We may write an add-on that will plug Interlecta translation into that WPML to achieve (much) better results.
No, you can’t even add JavaScript to WP.com.
I don’t have problems hosting it for free. As I explained earlier though, WPML really messes WordPress up. I tried to use it on my blog and I had to uninstall it. The same with http://www.bulgarica.com/ – it periodically messes up tags, categories, etc. and we removed it. I found WPML long ago, it’s still the best translation plugin, but not good enough for production use – and I was dealing with a bi-lingual blogs only, so, be careful. WPML is really complicated and hooks up to major functions and that’s why it’s having problems constantly. There are simpler plugins that allow you to pick source language and then they use Google Translate (or Interlecta?) to show the entire blog in the target language. There are also plugins that via some special markup allows you to put multiple translations of the same post and display only posts that have certain source language.
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jyonkov 12:23 pm on December 19, 2009 Permalink |
It seems that we can’t see what the other options are… so it would be nice if we add them as a comments. I was not expecting to see a lot of votes for google, but with google apps and JEE engine it seems that it has a lot of potential.
Bertrand 4:47 pm on December 20, 2009 Permalink |
Drupal and ModX are really simple and clear, Joomla is heavy to setup and manipulate but there is much more fonctionality.
About Google tools, i turn a bit around Google Site and it’s look ugly and very limitated by default.
Joomla, Drupal, your call ;o)
jyonkov 2:11 am on December 23, 2009 Permalink |
As you may have already realized, it’s not really “anyone’s call” what we are going to use, but to me its more about what we need and who is willing to contribute and what platform one has experience with… Please forgive me for the following brain dump but from what i know: Nikolay has experience with WP and he has acquired gambari.org for us, Naven has extensive experience in organizing communities, Stefan has extensive experience with PHP, Bertrand is extremely good with graphics, etc … and we are all pretty good at programming and software architecture. Please add anything you’d like to share… For example I’m more comfortable with Java and Google Engine than PHP. I’m also really exited about getting together and doing a development camp, perhaps sometime next year. Candidate projects pages and projects dashboard would be useful (we can add pages under Projects page), raising funds would help (start with google adsense?). About our community portal i’m sure you’re aware that you can export WP and experiment yourself. I personally think that instead of dividing out community it would be better to experiment bridging WP. For example we can setup our WP server at http://wp.gambari.org or/and JOOMLA at http://joomla.gambari.org , as for the current http://gambari.wordpress.com we are very limited as Nikolay mentioned earlier.
Daniel Radev 3:32 am on December 23, 2009 Permalink |
It’s not about dividing community, I think we need a place where we can share some more information without it being visible to spam bots for example (Bertrand please remove your email from bellow
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Nikolay 10:20 pm on January 1, 2010 Permalink |
From SEO point of view, it’s not good to have multiple subdomains. Whatever we pick, it’s better to reside on the same domain under different paths, i.e. gambari.org as the main and gambari.org/blog as the blog, etc. Regarding the CMS… I think for blogging, WordPress is the best. There are many additional things you can do on top of WordPress MU such as BuddyPress (SocNet), bbPress (forum), etc. Drupal is cool, but even the upcoming Drupal 7 is nowhere close to WordPress for blogging. Probably Drupal 8 will change the status quo, but for now I think WordPress MU + BuddyPress is the best choice for us.
jyonkov 2:10 am on January 2, 2010 Permalink |
Agree about the SEO point of view. About CMS I’m all for what people have experience with. The top things TODO in my opinion are to create our own WPMU, add advertisement and a way for all of us to see how much funds we have accumulated, add infrastructure for translating content. Nik, if you have time can you setup WPMU at http://gambari.org and suggest a way to add Ads. Additional user accounts might be useful (people may like to help…). Lets keep both WPMU’s active for awhile.